Hello,
I’m a new user and I love SubLab! I am using SubLab XL in Ableton on windows 11. I have noticed that only on some presets I am getting erratic pops and clicks on the transient. It usually does it on the first trigger. Consecutive triggers don’t do it if the sustain has not yet died out. But going from 0 output to trigger causes the pops and clicks. For reference, I first noticed it on the crushed - chest exploder preset. Here’s another wierd thing: If I mute the synth, sample, and x-sub in the mixer i still here an output of a pop click… this happens for many presets. How is that possible if there are only 3 sound sources and they are all muted?
Let me check it out, also can you make sure that you have the latest version installed? We’ve done a lot of work under the hood to make XL virtually pop and click free, so if your having issues would love to solve it.
Says sorry new users cannot upload attachments when trying to upload this midi so here’s a screenshot.
Some more info: You can definitely hear it when soloed even with the master bypassed. Also I tried every toggle in the SubLab XL settings to fix it with no luck.
At first I just thought I was using the plugin wrong since I am a newer user, but after hunting it down, I realized it’s the software.
Easy to find, turn off all the engines in the mixer section. Set the Vol Mod envelope attack between 1ms-5ms, and the Filter to Lowpass, any freq, with a 100% value on the Synth. All other settings are irrelevant.
It’s RIGHT THERE. You get an attack pop/click like you would hear with any oscillator set to an extremely fast attack/decay. But where’s it coming from?
The ONLY time it will completely go away is with a 0% value on the Filter amount in bottom left.
Running SubLabXL 1.0.4 in Ableton 11 on Windows 11.
Hey @silentnight and @goo_pudz so, I think you’re actually both honing in on the same thing which is that the filter is self-oscillating.
That means that if the filter is in use (turned up for the synth engine, sampler engine, or both) it will produce sound even when the other engines are muted in the mixer. If you drag the resonance all the way up to 100% you’ll hear it produce a very clear pitched tone. But be careful if you do this, it can hurt your ears.
The BNYX preset for example, and many of the other presets in the Future 808s II pack use the filter to create these more edgy/futuristic type of sounds. After doing some testing, I find that if I play around with the ADSR and make very small adjustments to the Decay or Release I can totally smooth out that sizzling sound which is coming from the filter.
The pops and clicks I get are not from the filter. I can have it at 0 and they still happen. The pops and clicks I’m getting also seem rather sporadic and only disappear if I disable the distortion module. I think these are two separate issues. Here’s a clean render of just the SubLab XL output with a little click around 2 seconds in and a big one around 8 seconds in. Click here
Hi Gavin Im having pops and clicks from the Volume envelope. like I have to make a very slow attack and long release to stop the clicks. that happens on all presets and on blank preset as well.
I have tried toggling all setting it didnt work. Version 1.0.4 has something with the Volume envelope that to get rid of pops you have to set the attack around 350ms and so the release which defeats the purpose of using 808s.
The silence on this issue is deafening yet FAW is replying in other threads. It’s been a month with no communication, are there even any devs still working on SubLab XL? Please provide a status on the issue.
Specifically what release time did you use? I played around with it a lot and could not find a release time that completely removes the clicking I showed in my example. For specifically the BNYX preset the best setting seems to be around 170ms for the least clicking… but there is still clicking. It may not happen on the first time the MIDI pattern plays but if the pattern keeps playing it will inevitably happen, it is sporadic and happens with many presets. Additionally going to higher release times makes the clicking worse as well.
So am I supposed to just find the release sweet spot on every preset that uses the distortion module, which changes the sound of the preset entirely, and just hope it doesn’t click while rendering?
No matter what I set it to there will be clicks if the distortion module is enabled (may also have something to do with the distortion type as well but unsure).
I made a couple screenshot of the ADSR, some screen recordings, and exported longer audio clips into this drive folder.
In my case, a small adjustment does the trick which doesn’t really alter the sound. I don’t have your project so I have to approximate and test things out, but, after doing some testing this (making small adjustments to the ADSR, specifically the Decay and Release) is what works for me. If you want to get rid of those crackle sounds it’s definitely worth a try.
I’m reaching out to the developers to bring this to their attention and we will take a closer look at this
Thank you for sharing your settings, I can confirm the clicks are still there for me even when I use your settings.
It looks like you looped your files for 1 min which on my setup it definitely would have clicked by then. I also examined your files for even miniscule clicks in RX and they look clean.
Thanks to your video capture I noticed you’re using Mac but I am using Windows. Is this an OS issue? It clicks on my desktop and my laptop too.
It’s not a DAW issue since my standalone Sublab XL clicks as well.
Hey @silentnight okay interesting…yeah it could be a mac v. windows issue. I don’t have a PC on me at the moment so let me get in touch with someone on our team to do some testing on a Windows machine.
