# Opening Sub Lab is Crashing Ableton instantly

**URL:** <https://community.futureaudioworkshop.com/t/opening-sub-lab-is-crashing-ableton-instantly/1471>\
**Category:** SubLab\
**Created:** [December 11, 2022, 11:56pm UTC](https://community.futureaudioworkshop.com/t/opening-sub-lab-is-crashing-ableton-instantly/1471 "2022-12-11T23:56:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![boogidaball](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bbe5ce/32.png) [@boogidaball](https://community.futureaudioworkshop.com/u/boogidaball)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2022, 11:56pm UTC](https://community.futureaudioworkshop.com/t/opening-sub-lab-is-crashing-ableton-instantly/1471/1 "2022-12-11T23:56:49Z")

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Ive been using Sublet for a year now and one day last week whenever I tried to open sublab in Ableton 10 it would instantly crash. I even just upgraded to Ableton 11 hoping it would fix the issue. Anyone know what’s going on? Just tried uninstalling sub lab and reinstalling and it didn’t work.

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**Author:** ![boogidaball](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bbe5ce/32.png) [@boogidaball](https://community.futureaudioworkshop.com/u/boogidaball)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 12:27am UTC](https://community.futureaudioworkshop.com/t/opening-sub-lab-is-crashing-ableton-instantly/1471/2 "2022-12-12T00:27:57Z")

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Just realized its impossible to open sublab itself as an application so it may not be an Ableton issue and is exclusively a sublab crashing issue.

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**Author:** ![Gavin\_FAW](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/community.futureaudioworkshop.com/gavin_faw/32/291_2.png) [@Gavin\_FAW](https://community.futureaudioworkshop.com/u/Gavin_FAW)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 4:08pm UTC](https://community.futureaudioworkshop.com/t/opening-sub-lab-is-crashing-ableton-instantly/1471/3 "2022-12-12T16:08:19Z")

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> [@boogidaball](#):
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> n just upgraded to Ableton 11 hoping it would fix the issue. Anyone know what’s going on? Just tried uninstalling sub lab and reinstalling and it didn’t work.

Have you updated to the latest version. Also what OS are your running ( I think it might be macOS Ventura ) .

Thanks,  
Gavin.

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**Author:** ![boogidaball](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bbe5ce/32.png) [@boogidaball](https://community.futureaudioworkshop.com/u/boogidaball)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2022, 8:10am UTC](https://community.futureaudioworkshop.com/t/opening-sub-lab-is-crashing-ableton-instantly/1471/4 "2022-12-13T08:10:26Z")

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I did update yes and I’m running the latest max is which is Ventura.

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**Author:** ![Julia](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/community.futureaudioworkshop.com/julia/32/981_2.png) [@Julia](https://community.futureaudioworkshop.com/u/Julia)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 11:31am UTC](https://community.futureaudioworkshop.com/t/opening-sub-lab-is-crashing-ableton-instantly/1471/5 "2022-12-14T11:31:59Z")

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Hey 👋

Okay, that makes sense. If you’re running Ventura, please install this beta:  
📍 SubLab [macOS 1.1.9 Beta](https://cdn.futureaudioworkshop.com.s3.amazonaws.com/downloads/sublab/SubLab-Installer-v1.1.9-Beta1-M1.dmg.zip) M1  
📍 SubLab [macOS 1.1.9 Beta](https://cdn.futureaudioworkshop.com.s3.amazonaws.com/downloads/sublab/SubLab-Installer-v1.1.9-Beta1-macOS.dmg.zip) 32/64 bit (Install this version for AAX support)

Run the installer with your DAW closed then restart your computer and you should be good to go!

Take care,  
Julia

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**Author:** ![Julia](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex027/user_avatar/community.futureaudioworkshop.com/julia/32/981_2.png) [@Julia](https://community.futureaudioworkshop.com/u/Julia)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2025, 12:06pm UTC](https://community.futureaudioworkshop.com/t/opening-sub-lab-is-crashing-ableton-instantly/1471/6 "2025-12-04T12:06:24Z")

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